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while steve king, the infamous joe walsh, rush limbaugh, paul brown, all the inhabitants of the cuckoo nest are scrambling because karl rove is drawing lines in the sand. rape candidates, witches, second remedy amendment types. stop making the democrats look smart and reasonable by running candidates. the joy is that each of the right-wing fascists thinks they are the same ones. the ones who have to protect the party from the others. tonight the duel to the death drives deeper, it's do or die, fight to the death. the winners get to run against hillary clinton. the losers get to say it's not their fault they lost. that doesn't make sense. neither does the fight on the right. with me tonight are two msnbc political analysts. joy, it really is a joy to watch this. to watch rove running around as a new matt dillon cleaning up the party, cleaning up main street from all the bad guys, when many people would say karl rove has been the problem from, well, since 2000 when he brought dubya in. >> i love the way you call him the cuckoo's nest. karl rove's whole strategy is he found a way to convi
while steve king, the infamous joe walsh, rush limbaugh, paul brown, all the inhabitants of the cuckoo nest are scrambling because karl rove is drawing lines in the sand. rape candidates, witches, second remedy amendment types. stop making the democrats look smart and reasonable by running candidates. the joy is that each of the right-wing fascists thinks they are the same ones. the ones who have to protect the party from the others. tonight the duel to the death drives deeper, it's do or die,...
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steve king sent an e-mail to supporters today that thrilled democrats. nobody can bully me out of running for the u.s. senate, not even karl rove and his hefty war chest. joy reid, these guys are making it fun. >> i know. >> they are just make making it fun. >> it's brilliant. there are always more sane people in the we call them the no nothings. they are encapsulated in the tea party and the only reason that karl rove was considered a genius, he managed to convince the crazy people in the conservative party that a methodist named george w. bush -- now, i grew up methodist. they are the most mild mannered christian. they just nod affirmatively, that he was an evangelical right wing thrower like they are. he put one over on them and now they've figured it out. they've had a taste of power and they want to run things. >> howard, what does the brent bozell side of the party think about actually winning elections? is that -- is that come into their calculations anywhere? >> i think somehow they think history will bend in their direction, if they just sit or
steve king sent an e-mail to supporters today that thrilled democrats. nobody can bully me out of running for the u.s. senate, not even karl rove and his hefty war chest. joy reid, these guys are making it fun. >> i know. >> they are just make making it fun. >> it's brilliant. there are always more sane people in the we call them the no nothings. they are encapsulated in the tea party and the only reason that karl rove was considered a genius, he managed to convince the crazy...
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and you have bachmann, you have him and steve king in iowa. >> we got a bite of steve here we should show, because he is right up there in this menagerie with paul broun. of course, broun isn't alone. here he is, steve king. >> we have a very, very urban center barack obama who has decided he is going to run for president. we've got to stand up at some point and say we are not going to pay slavery reparations in the united states congress. that war has been fought. that was over a century ago. government can sit down and decide to pay reparations with money borrowed from the chinese. >> you know, i got to tell you. i'm sort of a thaddeus stevens kind of guy with reparations. i think we should have done it with 30 acres and a mule back in the 1860s. but i haven't heard that issue raised. who is he arguing? >> there are 15 bills right now before congress that are reparation bills where. have you been? >> there is no money to give out. >> but people are still on it. i did a story about how aetna, people were after aetna to make reparations. i mean this is still in the news. >> i think t
and you have bachmann, you have him and steve king in iowa. >> we got a bite of steve here we should show, because he is right up there in this menagerie with paul broun. of course, broun isn't alone. here he is, steve king. >> we have a very, very urban center barack obama who has decided he is going to run for president. we've got to stand up at some point and say we are not going to pay slavery reparations in the united states congress. that war has been fought. that was over a...
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steve king and paul broun have been around for a long time. when the party stands up and says these are the guys they want, they know who they're talking about. they know who these guys are. and it is what they choose. so if you were a republican party stalwart, if you were part of the republican party and you loved the republican party and you wanted what was best for the republican party, what would you do at a time like this? what would you say? how would you try to fix this problem? well, today in washington house majority leader eric cantor tried something, and he does this from time to time, as he tries to be taken seriously as a leader of his party, or at least as a potential leader of his party. in 2010, eric cantor launched his young guns thing. young guns, presumably to try to supplant the old guns in the party. he then launched something called cut and grow so you at home could set the republican party's agenda instead of the old guys in the party who are setting the party's agenda. in 2009 he launched something called the national
steve king and paul broun have been around for a long time. when the party stands up and says these are the guys they want, they know who they're talking about. they know who these guys are. and it is what they choose. so if you were a republican party stalwart, if you were part of the republican party and you loved the republican party and you wanted what was best for the republican party, what would you do at a time like this? what would you say? how would you try to fix this problem? well,...
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within one hour, host steve ducey, kwent inwent into damage mode. >>> a facelift for the site? really? >> showing off this glamorous new face. faceli facelift, perhaps? >> that doesn't sound like a facelift for the web site to me. especially when you're showing a split screen of hillary's face from the new site compared to a photo of her label two weeks ago. i think it's time to send out a new tweet. the only appearance they should be worrying about at fox is their own. did they think we wouldn't say their sexist about face? nice try, nice try. but face this fact. we gotchya. [ male announcer ] here's a word that could give you peace of mind. unbiased. some brokerage firms are. but way too many aren't. some of the ones that push mutual funds with their names on them -- aren't. why? because selling their funds makes them more money. which makes you wonder -- isn't that a conflict? am i in the best fund for me, or them? search "proprietary mutual funds". yikes, it's best for them. then go to e-trade. we've got over 8,000 mutual funds and not one of them has our name on it. why? b
within one hour, host steve ducey, kwent inwent into damage mode. >>> a facelift for the site? really? >> showing off this glamorous new face. faceli facelift, perhaps? >> that doesn't sound like a facelift for the web site to me. especially when you're showing a split screen of hillary's face from the new site compared to a photo of her label two weeks ago. i think it's time to send out a new tweet. the only appearance they should be worrying about at fox is their own. did...
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bill, the upcoming iowa senate race, they are looking at that as a case where congress steve king could win the republican primary but lose the general. if you look at just iowa how brutal can it get there? >> i think it could get very brutal. who is karl rove kidding in many ways? this is who the republican party is today. this is who they are. todd akin, right, he was no outsider. he was the republican endorsed candidate. sharon engel in nevada, christine o'donnell in delaware. they were the republican's choice candidate. so karl rove pretending to be holy than thou i don't think we ought to fall for it. >> jennifer: jason on the subject of republican primaries today, south carolina republican state senator lee bright told row call that he is leaning towards a challenge against republican lindsay graham. do you expect that graham will end up tacking even further to the right? because he certainly has tacked to the right over the past couple of years. >> this challenge is an absolute nut case. lindsay graham he'll do the old john lovett thing, i can't believe i'm losing to this guy. le
bill, the upcoming iowa senate race, they are looking at that as a case where congress steve king could win the republican primary but lose the general. if you look at just iowa how brutal can it get there? >> i think it could get very brutal. who is karl rove kidding in many ways? this is who the republican party is today. this is who they are. todd akin, right, he was no outsider. he was the republican endorsed candidate. sharon engel in nevada, christine o'donnell in delaware. they...
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where will steve pierce be during the address? his announcement yesterday, public hearing on the chicken is the same day of the state of the union. pearce will be attending a meeting on a chicken to the endangerered species list. >>> and their top staffers would rather forget. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. i'm lorenzo. i work for 47 different companies. well, technically i work for one. that company, the united states postal service®, works for thousands of home businesses. because at usps.com®, you can pay, print and have your packages picked up for free. i can even drop off free boxes. i wear a lot of hats. well, technically i wear one. the u.s. postal service®, no business too small. with multiple lacerations to the wing and a fractured beak. surgery was successful, but he will be in a cast until it is fully healed, possibly several months. so, if the duck isn't able to work, how will he pay for his living expenses? aflac. like his rent and car payments? aflac. what about gas and groceries? aflac. cell
where will steve pierce be during the address? his announcement yesterday, public hearing on the chicken is the same day of the state of the union. pearce will be attending a meeting on a chicken to the endangerered species list. >>> and their top staffers would rather forget. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. i'm lorenzo. i work for 47 different companies. well, technically i work for one. that company, the united states postal service®, works for...
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the first target could be in iowa where representative steve king is considering running for the congress in 2014 but the head of the conservative fund the conservative defeat project telling politico, another example of the republican establish's hostility toward its conservative base rather than listening to the grass roots and working to advance their principles, the establishment has chosen to declare war on the party's most loyal supporters and from red state, quote, i share any candidate who gets this group's support should be targeted for destruction by the conservative movement. joining me is editor mark murray. but the reality you and the first read team say this could and perhaps will get ugly here. >> well, it could get ugly. also railroad healthy. this is something that all parties go through after losing elections, particularly losing back to back presidential contests and crossroads, same organization trying to have a new outfit and outshoot saying it comes down to capable candidates versus incompetent ones and sometimes that capability is in the eye of the beholder. there w
the first target could be in iowa where representative steve king is considering running for the congress in 2014 but the head of the conservative fund the conservative defeat project telling politico, another example of the republican establish's hostility toward its conservative base rather than listening to the grass roots and working to advance their principles, the establishment has chosen to declare war on the party's most loyal supporters and from red state, quote, i share any candidate...
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at least in the state of new jersey. >> steve, anything to the timing of this? is there anything to that school of thought that says he wants this publicly litigated now so that as he makes up his mind with regard to 2016 he's dealt with it? >> yeah. i don't even know if it's that as much as hey, if you go on letterman you're going to joke around and this is the thing you're going to joke around about and then the doctor comes out and she does her thing. i think it's more sort of a -- more sort of a preview for him of what he's in store for. i know he went through this in new jersey in 2009 but obviously that's a smaller scale in terms of the media scrutiny. maybe it's a preview for him of what he'd be in for. because we'd have these episodes a lot if he got in a national race. it's for him to sit there and say do i want to go through this, do i want doctors going on tv and talking about my weight? because i don't think this will be the first one if he runs for president. >> i agree with both of you. and i agree with susan in particular that there's blowback to
at least in the state of new jersey. >> steve, anything to the timing of this? is there anything to that school of thought that says he wants this publicly litigated now so that as he makes up his mind with regard to 2016 he's dealt with it? >> yeah. i don't even know if it's that as much as hey, if you go on letterman you're going to joke around and this is the thing you're going to joke around about and then the doctor comes out and she does her thing. i think it's more sort of a...
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ramesh, susan, steve. on friday morning, we knew that scott brown was releasing a statement. the minute he said that you sort of knew where the writing was. i was surprised by some of the reporting that said he shocked republicans by not running. i would have been shocked if he had run. >> we think he's going to run for governor. probably a better race for him and maybe a better job. people who have worked in the senate might think being governor is a better place to be. >> steve, we were reminding folks on friday that martha cokely got 47%. if on the republicans' greatest day of all time, low democratic point in massachusetts, and your ceiling is 53, it's not going to happen. >> it's not going to happen for that reason. >> even if your name is scott brown, after his whole -- this time they had actually run a campaign against him. >> that's exactly my point. the democrats were sort of snuck up on last time. that wouldn't happen again. scott brown, really, if anybody runs, democrats will make sure massachusetts elects a democrat. >> but there is a history of moderate massachus
ramesh, susan, steve. on friday morning, we knew that scott brown was releasing a statement. the minute he said that you sort of knew where the writing was. i was surprised by some of the reporting that said he shocked republicans by not running. i would have been shocked if he had run. >> we think he's going to run for governor. probably a better race for him and maybe a better job. people who have worked in the senate might think being governor is a better place to be. >> steve,...
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they want tea party birther guy steve king. steve king polls way ahead of his next closest primary challenger. the more moderate republican congressman tom latham. steve king ahead by 17 points in that republican primary matchup when you look at the polls. of course, when you put steve king up against the likely winner of the democratic primary, and you actually poll the whole state, all likely midterm voters in iowa, steve king, the tea party birther king guy loses to democratic congressman bruce braley. but just counter factual here, let's say the wacky tea party guy, the birther steve king guy didn't run off with the primary, look what happens when you poll statewide among likely voters and ask them to choose between the not steve king guy and the democrat, actually, the republican guy wins. in other words, the whole state of iowa would rather have the more moderate republican guy. but if you do not give them that choice in the general election, if republicans decide that what they're offering is just the birther guy, just t
they want tea party birther guy steve king. steve king polls way ahead of his next closest primary challenger. the more moderate republican congressman tom latham. steve king ahead by 17 points in that republican primary matchup when you look at the polls. of course, when you put steve king up against the likely winner of the democratic primary, and you actually poll the whole state, all likely midterm voters in iowa, steve king, the tea party birther king guy loses to democratic congressman...
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. >> steve, did you do that? >> momentum's been completely changed now. >> momentum! it's completely messed up now. >> i hope there are no lip readers because toure's about to lose it. >> i'm out of here. >> yeah. so there was the blackout which was obviously bizarre and i think gave rise to potentially some great harbaugh family practical jokes in the family like at the first family dinner since the super bowl, jack goes and cuts the power as a joke. love that. >> light the producers just did. >> exactly. great guys. thanks. but it also made me think of -- it was like a super bowl brought by stefan. it has everything. brothers. beyonce. blackouts. ray lewis. >> destiny's child. >> right? yes yes yes yes yes. it was so great and weird. but all in all interesting. something to watch i think every, you know, every quarter. >> something for everyone. >> something weird happened. >> there was, those are those memories and thought there was one other professional sports team with a blackout before. >> giants. >> no. it was the boston bruins and the oilers 1980. the old bos
. >> steve, did you do that? >> momentum's been completely changed now. >> momentum! it's completely messed up now. >> i hope there are no lip readers because toure's about to lose it. >> i'm out of here. >> yeah. so there was the blackout which was obviously bizarre and i think gave rise to potentially some great harbaugh family practical jokes in the family like at the first family dinner since the super bowl, jack goes and cuts the power as a joke. love...
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>> steve, you're wrong. the fact of the matter is reid is not going to let it happen because he has people in cycle in tough states. mark pryor, mark begich from alaska. i don't think he wants to even bring it up for a vote. he might because it might be better for those guys being on record voting against it, but that's kind of risky, so we'll see. >> i think it's tricky for him. >> it is. >> how does he hold the majority of senators when you see every time you have a gun issue the middle of the country, from california to new york, is against you. >> everybody a looking back at what happened in 1994 saying it could happen again. the numbers this time are entirely different than they were in 1994. they're overwhelming in favor -- >> you know the intensity issue. who gets out and votes on this. >> but the people who are going to vote against somebody for voting in favor of responsible gun control are already voting for republicans, so, democrats, you have nothing to fear but fear itself. >> you want heidi hei
>> steve, you're wrong. the fact of the matter is reid is not going to let it happen because he has people in cycle in tough states. mark pryor, mark begich from alaska. i don't think he wants to even bring it up for a vote. he might because it might be better for those guys being on record voting against it, but that's kind of risky, so we'll see. >> i think it's tricky for him. >> it is. >> how does he hold the majority of senators when you see every time you have a...
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let's bring in steve mcmahon hand michael steele. michael, force the defense, is the republican party capable of garnering all kinds of fringe voters, people on the very hard right, without having right wing candidates as your nominees and losing elections? how do they do both? >> look, this whole idea of having another pac is just to me -- it's just too out there. all you have to do to get together, organize at the state parties, put the state parties in charge of the political process. when i was state chairman, when i was a county chairman, i had to instill the discipline at the state level to make sure we were grooming and developing the kind of candidates you want to run. you just can't leave it to an open process and then swing in with yet another pac that's going to divert money away from the state, concentrated here for consultants and vendors in washington and then complain afterwards as we saw in 2012 when you get your clock cleaned again, oh, gee, it's the candidates, it's the state party. there's got to be a concerted eff
let's bring in steve mcmahon hand michael steele. michael, force the defense, is the republican party capable of garnering all kinds of fringe voters, people on the very hard right, without having right wing candidates as your nominees and losing elections? how do they do both? >> look, this whole idea of having another pac is just to me -- it's just too out there. all you have to do to get together, organize at the state parties, put the state parties in charge of the political process....
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let's bring in democratic strategist and former derry deputy campaign manager steve al man dorff and robert trayman. robert, after that bruising 2012 election season, is marco rubio the republican savior. >> well, i don't know if i would go that far, but he's certainly a rising star in the party. here is why. he's coming to the idea thoughtful with a lot of ideas. he's young. he comes from a very good swing state, the state of florida. he obviously is a son of immigrants. he's a minority and he's relevant in people's live. people look at him and say finally someone is thoughtful. finally someone is reasonable. finally someone looks like me in the republican party and also he has ideas. not necessarily i agree with all of his ideas but i'm willing to listen. i'd say he's relevant but i'm not sure he's the savior yet. >> when he was asked, steve, to weigh in on all this 2016 speculation, here is what he told "time." >> i have always viewed politics the following way, if you do a good job at the job you're going, you will have opportunities to do things in the future, maybe things you n
let's bring in democratic strategist and former derry deputy campaign manager steve al man dorff and robert trayman. robert, after that bruising 2012 election season, is marco rubio the republican savior. >> well, i don't know if i would go that far, but he's certainly a rising star in the party. here is why. he's coming to the idea thoughtful with a lot of ideas. he's young. he comes from a very good swing state, the state of florida. he obviously is a son of immigrants. he's a minority...
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but polls show the leading republican congressman steve king gets beat by any likely democrat. this a surprise? what do you think? >> it's a surprise in terms of iowa, having done some work there, it's a rural state. it's not the northeast of the united states. it's not massachusetts. but they're also very progressive, and they're also a good judge of character. they kind of see through the game, if you will. and i think the state has changed over the last four or so years. it's kind of moved if you will more to the center, more to the center left. and candidates like congressman king and others just don't i think reflect the values of the preferences of the state. >> now, on the national level, there is new jersey governor chris christie. let's take a look at his appearance on david letterman. >> i've made jokes about you, not just one or two. not just ongoing here and there, intermittent. >> i didn't know it was going to be this long. >> joking aside, christie has an innate ability to know the room and be the regular guy. and isn't this what the republican party is lacking ri
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. >> and how about steve king on immigration? >> i think that was meant to be a compliment toward immigrants. up next, the latest republican scheme to rig the election. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. >>> welcome back to "hardball." there are several states where republicans floated the idea of how electoral votes are dif i haved up. republicans controlled the state legislatures. well, the scheme seem today have crashed before they even began in most of those states. in florida, for example, top republicans have backed away. in virginia, the bill was killed in committee. in ohio, the republican governor indicated it was opposed in wisconsin where paul ryan said he was against the change. that leaves one state for now, pae pa. and republicans seem sbent intent on going ahead. dominic says he will introduce legislation this month that will change how electoral votes are awarded, changing it from a winner take all to a popular vote. that would be instead of 12. it's going against them. well, this latest scheme su
. >> and how about steve king on immigration? >> i think that was meant to be a compliment toward immigrants. up next, the latest republican scheme to rig the election. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. >>> welcome back to "hardball." there are several states where republicans floated the idea of how electoral votes are dif i haved up. republicans controlled the state legislatures. well, the scheme seem today have crashed before they...
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and they figured out that babes, chicks, what do you call them, steve, skirts? >> when you give birth, and you may some day know this, you can't go out and work the next day. and you should be watching the kid anyway. so there's got to be somebody else giving you money. >> i agree. >> besides the government. >> who is running the white house now? you get sebelius, valerie jarrett, michele. the oval office is becoming "the view." what is next? they'll have lamaze classes next. >>> i asked you will republicans succeed in killing the post office. 53% of you say yes. 47% of you say no. >>> coming up, ashley judd responds to karl rove's latest slimy attack. that's next. [ female announcer ] going to sleep may be easy, but when you wake up in the middle of the night it can be frustrating. it's hard to turn off and go back to sleep. intermezzo is the first and only prescription sleep aid approved for use as needed in the middle of the night when you can't get back to sleep. it's an effective sleep medicine you don't take before bedtime. take it in bed only when you nee
and they figured out that babes, chicks, what do you call them, steve, skirts? >> when you give birth, and you may some day know this, you can't go out and work the next day. and you should be watching the kid anyway. so there's got to be somebody else giving you money. >> i agree. >> besides the government. >> who is running the white house now? you get sebelius, valerie jarrett, michele. the oval office is becoming "the view." what is next? they'll have...
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while steve king, matt kibby, joe walsh, rush limbaugh, all the inhas been nants of the cuckoo nest are cscrambling because karl rove is drawing lines in the sand. want republicans to win? cut out the crazies he he's? want the democrats, stop giving them easy targets, rape candidates and witches. stop making the democrats look smart and reasonable by running stupid and crazy candidates. the joy is, i have to say this, and it's really quite funny, each of the right wing factions thinks that they are the same ones, they are the ones who have to protect the party from the others. well, tonight the duel to the death drives deeper. it's do or die, fight to the death. the winners get to run against hillary clinton. the losers get to say it's not their fault they lost. wait a minute. that doesn't make any sense. and neither does this fight on the right for the right to say you're right. with me tonight are two msnbc political analysts joy reid of the grio and david corn from "mother jones." joy, it really is a joy to watch this, to watch rove running around in some sort of new matt dillon clea
while steve king, matt kibby, joe walsh, rush limbaugh, all the inhas been nants of the cuckoo nest are cscrambling because karl rove is drawing lines in the sand. want republicans to win? cut out the crazies he he's? want the democrats, stop giving them easy targets, rape candidates and witches. stop making the democrats look smart and reasonable by running stupid and crazy candidates. the joy is, i have to say this, and it's really quite funny, each of the right wing factions thinks that they...